Wednesday, September 24, 2014

AUGUST 2014 PPHOA Board Meeting Minutes

PPHOA Board Meeting Minutes
20 August 2014

In attendance:  MSJones, Daniel, Ryan, Kelsey, DeeAnn, Norm

Megan apologizes for getting behind with email approvals and has hard copies of these two meetings.
Approve copy of annual meeting minutes—we will approve these via email.
Approve last month’s minutes.—Ryan moves to approve.  Daniel seconds.  All in favor. 
            Note to change: Norm has reconsidered and is still a member of the board.    

Treasurer’s Report
1.     Financial Standing.  We’ve dropped below $100,000.
a.     $39,419.17 in the money market account.
b.     $56,730.96 in checking. 
c.     $25.18 in savings. 
2.     The changes in balances came from some larger expenses.
a.     Two months of lawn care came to $2700.
b.     There are 2 more big bills for lawn maintenance for July and for sprinklers.
*Megan is curious about year-to-year expenditures.  She will pull the numbers and work with Daniel to make a comparison spreadsheet. 
c.     Some of the doors are a lot older.  For new doors, the weather stripping is $45.  Other doors are over $100/door.  Each door had to be fitted individually.  This has changed the cost of the weather stripping.
d.     We are now invoiced for the stripping and the first 30 doors.  This has come to $4820.  (Sanding, paint, and paint for 2 tone and 1 tone doors.)  Let’s pay him tonight.
3.      We have 3 households behind on their dues.  For those late (and especially out of town) we can recommend automatic bill pay.
4.     How much are we paying for garbage? 
a.     The bins are each about 446/445 per bin.  2x/week. 
b.     We can always negotiate this down. 
c.     The frequency is fine. 

Secretary Update
1.     Please copy of official documents.  They will be in your box by midnight tonight—I’m reformatting to embed amendments in the body of the documents.  I will ask for approval to post on the website and distribute.
2.     Review copy of By-law amendment.  If it is okay, I will have it notarized.
3.     ACTION: Write and send newsletter
Keep PP clean (garbage at parking spots)
Don’t use oil-based products on new paint doors.  If you want to maintain paint, only use water for cleaning. 
Paint looks great, shutters are next—timeline for completion
Minutes from June meeting
New board position list
Reminder about breaking boxes down and cleaning up can go in newsletter.





Painting Project
1.     Update on progress.  ACTION: Daniel will talk to Marcello when he delivers the check.  Megan will follow up on her text. 
2.     Concerns?
3.     Estimated time to finish?

Repairs
1.     Status of repairs on roof above Daniel and Megan.
a.     It’s been tightened down to not flap.  But some strips need to be replaced.
b.     There were others places around the flue. 
c.     ACTION: DeeAnn will call Tony about completing these repairs. 
2.     Decision on cost of repairs of decks to homeowners based on our reading of the bylaws.

From the CC&Rs:
5.2 Exterior Maintenance. The Association will provide maintenance upon the exterior of each home, fencing, garage and the Common Area as follows: paint, repair, replace, and care for roofs, gutters, downspouts, exterior building surfaces, trees, shrubs, grass, walks, streets and other exterior improvements except glass surfaces. In the event an owner of any Lot in the Properties shall fail to maintain the premises and the improvements situated thereon  in a manner satisfactory to the Board of Directors, after a resolution is passed by two thirds of the Board of Directors, the Association shall have the right, through its agents and employees, to enter upon said parcel and to repair, maintain and restore the Lot and the exterior of the Unit and any other improvements erected thereon. The cost of such exterior maintenance shall be added to and become part of the assessment to which such Lot is subject.

1.     Reminder that years ago, a decision was made that the PPHOA would repair one time only and the rest would be taken care of by the homeowners.
a.     Some feel we should follow this oral history.
b.     Others feel that if it wasn’t written down so it shouldn’t be binding.  There was no amendment and no resolution.  And these aren’t binding. 
c.     But there are homeowners that paid to repair.
d.     According to memory, all balconies have been repaired once.  All the wood fences were replaced and the floors were replaced.  The Tongs have repaired theirs again and paid for it themselves.
e.     How about the pillars in front?  Those seems like PPHOA would pay.
f.      The McKell unit needs to be taken care of.  The column and the roof are the concern.  Birds are nesting.  This isn’t common damage. 
g.     Kelsey points out that if we fixed them in the first place, then it was clear that the balconies were part of exterior maintenance.
h.     The problems moving ahead for maintenance is the flashing on the balconies.  The flashing is part of the PPHOA. 
2.     Two issues: 
a.     Are balconies “exterior building surfaces” or not?
b.     Can we do proactive repairs to keep further water damage from happening?
3.     Garage doors are the responsibility of the owners because of a letter.
4.     Ryan moves we should honor the CC&Rs, no matter the past, and move ahead with the repair of external surfaces according to the rules in CC&R rules V.2. 
a.     The board would get contractor bids. 
b.     That concerns of owners when they need things repaired or replaced are considered on a case-by-case basis. 
5.     Daniel seconds Ryan’s notion.
6.     Call for questions:
a.     Why wouldn’t homeowner’s insurance cover that?
b.     The CC&Rs are old.  We could maybe go to a lawyer and update things.  There are attorneys that deal with this.  Should we contact one?  We think this is a good idea, but it is a separate idea than following these rules. 
c.     Should we call for an amendment to take garage doors off the CC&Rs?
7.     Vote:  5 in favor and 1 against (because this person felt we needed more time to consider.)
8.     How does this relate to additional insured?
9.     Kelsey’s job will be to make sure that we have records of all insurance from homeowners.
a.     It needs to be current.
b.     It needs to be marked with “additional insured.”
c.     Kelsey will contact those who don’t have names on binders.
d.     Also check that they are insured correctly:  we are a PUD.  Town homes, not condos, not stand-alone homes. 
10.  Also, earthquakes are not covered here because we are on a fault line. 
11.  DeeAnn things that the first course of action should be homeowners insurance.
12.  ACTION:  Ryan will talk to McKell re: insurance.  Will let DeeAnn know.  DeeAnn will talk to Tony.

We feel strongly that we might want to update the CC&Rs and Bylaws with a lawyer.   
1.     Megan says maybe a law student? 
2.     Norm will ask a specialty firm about this.
3.     Megan wonders (as she edits the notes) about Jean Tanner?

Board Members and Responsibilities
1.     Sherri McKell has expressed interest in serving on the Board.  She would not be able to meet Wednesday nights, but is free the rest of the week.  We will revisit this next month. 
2.     Last month’s elections and appointments:
New Board Officers:
President: Ryan Holdaway
Vice-President: DeeAnn Jennings
Treasurer:  Daniel Trousdale
Secretary: Megan Sanborn Jones
Additional Insured/Welcome Wagon:  Kelsey Navasard
Landscaping—DeeAnn Jennings
Contracts, Bidding, PPHOA Insurance—Norm Tong

ACTION: Norm will call precision concrete cutting to shave the sidewalks where they are uneven.




Parking
1.     Getting rid of the snow plow.
a.     DeeAnn checked with the police.  It was abandoned by Juan, so it is ours.
b.     We will list it on KSL and put the money into the account.  Kelsey will do this.
2.     ACTION: DeeAnn and Megan will sort through cars.
a.     ACTION: Megan will get stuff in writing.
b.     Jean Tanner needs a note for Hemphill.  McKell needs a note for Ryan. 
c.     What if we started charging to park back there? 
d.     If I can’t get permissions, tell them they are out of compliance, so please reply by 10 September by getting in compliance. 
3.     ACTION: Megan will make a chart with assigned spots for back. 


JULY 2014 PPHOA Board Meeting

PPHOA Minutes
9 July 2010

Shirley Tong discussion with board.
Shirley is unable to attend and provides a letter (see attached).
Main points are problems with funds.  Shirley doesn’t think that the Board should pay for:
1.     Providing thank-you cards and gift cards as thank-yous to Board members who are leaving.  She feels that thank-you cards are “reimbursement for services” which is prohibited by the CC&Rs.
2.     Board party, which paid for a bouncy house.  She feels that this should be paid for by the people who want the party and not PHHOA funds.
3.     She recommends that funds not be used for parties or gift cards. 
Daniel says that it would an easy thing to stop.
Megan suggests that gift cards are not a “reimbursement for services.”
DeeAnn suggests that $50 is too much and it was a bad precedence.
Megan argues that the gift cards are not against and rules, etc. 
Marcello agrees that we shouldn’t pay for lots of parties.  Whatever gifts we’ve given as a thank-you for service, this doesn’t seem like a problem.  Imagine if we had to pay for a property management company. 
Ryan paid for these out of his own pocket and is fine not asking for reimbursement if the board decides.  And everything we have spent was all approved. 
But, if parties only benefit for the people with kids, is it a misuse of funds. 
Ryan feels that creating a community is a part of what is going on.
Daniel says that the nice thing is to have a board that
DeeAnn suggests that we offer a small amount for a book at deseret book or something. 
Ryan suggests that $50 is not too much.

Marcello moves that if we feel as a board that someone has done a great job and we want to reward them we should give them a gift card or a gift to say thank-you on a case-by-case basis.
Megan seconds. 
Voting is 4-2 in favor. 

Last summer we paid for one $600 party.  DeeAnn thinks it was a stupid thing to do and not a wise use for the associations money. 
Ryan and Megan agree that recreation (CC&R 6.2) is a broad category. 
DeeAnn points out that we have many expenditures coming up.

We all agree that Shirley’s letter is not offensive, but exacting and we appreciate her attention to detail and community finances. 

Megan moves we handle upcoming recreation on a case-by-case basis and keep in mind upcoming expenditures and the suitability of the event for the betterment of the majority of the community.
Ryan seconds.
Voting is 4-2 in favor.




Follow-up with action items.
1.      Transition of treasurer from Glen to Daniel.
a.     Bills are all paid up to date
b.     We haven’t gotten a bill for the trash yet.  Norm would like this to determine how much we are spending.
c.     Can Daniel have an accounting each month to let us know where we are?
2.     Records—digitizing, providing copies for everyone.
a.     Digitizing.  Megan was able to get this done for about $100.  She will work on making readable copies.
b.     We need to providing copies for everyone (McKells have asked for them).  We will redistribute with all the amendments.  Email these documents to those for whom we have addresses.  Give copies to the others. 
c.     Megan needs to send out the minutes of the annual meeting. 
3.     Siding repair on decks and above Megan and Daniel’s house and other places.
a.     The siding is no longer flapping and will soon be replaced.  For free.
b.     The problem with the McKell’s house’s porch.  In our bylaws we need confirmation that McKell has to pay for it.  According to the by-laws, the HOA is responsible for exteriors.  Porches are exterior. 
                                               i.     Years ago there was a decision to repair all the porches once only.  Based on this, the Tongs spent $3200 to repair their porch 3 years ago.  But this isn’t a rule. 
                                             ii.     Daniel suggests that if there isn’t a paper trail (and there isn’t), it doesn’t exist.  DeeAnn disagrees.  She remembers that a long time ago, the board decided to repair it only one time and then never again. 
                                            iii.     Ryan points out that since there is no trail, we open ourselves up for lawsuits.  We cannot afford to hold homeowners to rules that don’t exist. 
                                            iv.     We could make this an amendment to change the rule to DeeAnn and Norm’s memory, but the board would first have to agree that this is a good idea and then we would have to reconvene as special meeting. 
                                             v.     Norm doesn’t want to be reimbursed. 
c.     We will table this and everyone read the rules for the next meeting. 
d.     NOTE: please wait to contact the McKells again until we have a decision.
e.     The verbal bid we received to repair the McKell (Holdaway) porch was for $2000. 
4.     DeeAnn, get Megan Teria’s phone number to update the records. 
5.     Painting for parking—table this until after we talk about parking. 
a.     When?
b.     Stripes, numbers, visitor, basketball key? 
                                               i.     Daniel moves yes.  Norm seconds.  4-1.  1 abstension.
                                             ii.     DeeAnn will tell him to wait to paint until we update all the spots. 

Painting Project
1.     We have a few more colors that we need to gather.
2.     16th we need to have it all in.  Send your completed color lists to Megan and she will send the completed list to Marcello.  Marcello will pick between colors to make sure colors are spread around nicely throughout the community.
3.     Don’t offer gray any more since no one wants it anyway and it will help the cost and the effort to have one less color to deal with. 
4.     Marcello will talk to Jeff about white paint in the storage unit so that he can match the paint with the existing exterior color 
5.     Megan will talk with Lillian about her color pick. 

Lawn
DeeAnn will talk with Jeff about watering less.  Everything is soggy.

Reassignment of board positions.
1.     Megan moves that Ryan be elected.
a.     Norm feels that homeowners should be the president.
b.     Ryan suggests that he has experience and a willingness and a time. 
c.     DeeAnn and Norm believe vested has to do with ownership.  Megan believes vested has to do with the actions and working towards the betterment of the community.  Megan feels that we shouldn’t make decisions based on renting vs owning.
d.     Reasons for electing Ryan president:  he has experience working successfully with organizations with lots of different kinds of people, he has experience in other HOAs, he is patient and kind, he has a professional point of view, he has shown himself to be a contributing member of the board. 
e.     DeeAnn feels that waiting to talk to the board gets in the way of getting things done and that the job of the president is tons of work fielding calls, knocking on doors, checking that everything is as it should be to maintain property values.
f.      Megan suggests that perhaps the president’s job shouldn’t be to proactively police the community. 
g.     Norm feels DeeAnn should remain as president.
2.     Megan moves that Ryan serves as president.  Daniel seconds.  Voting is 3-2 with 1 abstention. 
3.     DeeAnn moves that Norm be Vice.  He declines.
4.     Ryan moves that DeeAnn be Vice.  Daniel seconds. 5-0 with 1 abstention.
5.     Ryan moves that Daniel be treasurer.  Megan seconds.  Unanimous.
6.     Ryan nominates Megan as secretary.  Marcello seconds.  Unanimous.

New Board Officers:
President: Ryan Holdaway
Vice-President: DeeAnn Jennings
Treasurer:  Daniel Trousdale
Secretary: Megan Sanborn Jones
Other assignments:  TBA

Responsibilities that need assigning to board members.  We will cover this next month.
1.     Front parking
2.     Rear parking
3.     Building Maintenance
4.     Landscaping
5.     Bidding and Contracts
6.     Insurance.  DeeAnn will call Tanya Toles again. 
7.     Welcome wagon?  To make sure all new tenants and owners have the rules.  

Parking
1.     Norm feels very strongly that we should not talk about parking anymore but that we should just put a note on cars and then start towing. 
2.     Megan thinks we should follow the plans we outlined in past meetings, to review the policies, get on the same page
3.     Daniel and Ryan suggest that we need to treat the parking issue like new.  We need to define the problem and re-clarify for all new people.  Then we give a warning and then we follow through.
4.     Ryan thinks we should always talk with people first before being punitive. 
5.     Ryan will talk to Juan about moving his 2 things now that he is no longer a resident of Park Place. 
6.     Norm reiterated that he felt the board was handling parking badly. 

At the end of the meeting, Norm Tong resigned from participation on the board.  The board encouraged him to take a month to reconsider.